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bbc blogging then yahoo for dinner

By on Oct 31, 2007 in Uncategorized |

BBC Blogging Event Originally uploaded by robinhamman As I mentioned yesterday, we were lucky enough to have Graham Holliday, Jeff Jarvis, Adriana Cronin-Lukasand Hemma and Lee from Headshift join us at the BBC for an afternoon discussion about the BBC’s blogs and their future. The BBC’s Technology Correspondent, Rory Celland-Jones, lent his interviewing skills and kicked things off with a discussion with Jeff and Graham. We later, as you do at these sort of things, broken into smaller discussions where we talked about which BBC people should blog for the BBC, what skills are required, what our current platform can and can’t do, how we might measure success (or failure), etc. It’s all part of a review we’re doing to help us improve our blogs, both technically and editorially, moving forward. Jeff was interested in the metrics we’ve been using to analyse our blogs, the behaviour of our bloggers and commenters, etc: “… it started off with Hemma Kocher of Headshift sharing lessons from a study of the Beeb’s blogs. The numbers aren’t final, so I won’t share them. But I was fascinated with what they studied: how many posts — and how many per blogger — on how many blogs at what average length with how many comments and how many links to BBC sites and to the world outside.” The BBC’s Director of Global News, Richard Sambrook, who blogs inside the firewall, on at least one of the BBC News blogs and on his personal blog SacredFacts, summed things up at the end: “There’s no better way to understand the huge changes sweeping the media than getting your hands dirty online. It’s fallen to us to reinvent the industry and we won’t do it with heads in either the sand or the clouds…“ Jeff, Adriana, Rory and myself later enjoyed a “snazzy dinner”, to quote Jeff, thrown by Yahoo. To be honest I’m not entirely sure what Yahoo was trying to get out of the event, but there was at least one point in the evening where I wished I’d had my microphone, in particular this moment, as described by Jeff Jarvis: “BBC tech correspondent Rory Celland-Jones asked pointedly whether Yahoo knows it has missed out and it is just slapping the social label on its rhetoric to try to catch up. One of the Yahoo execs tried to insist that the internet is still “at a very early stage” (read: Google has not won yet, he wishes) After the meal – probably too late to be bringing elephants into the room – I decided to ask if Yahoo might be worried about a backlash from users when people start to realise that the reason Yahoo, google and others are interested in social media isn’t just because they want to give us cool toys to play with but because the data generated when we use their services helps them better target ads. I realise that companies have to make money but I also think that users should be able to see exactly what data is being collected about them, what it’s being used for, and who is using it. In effect, a way for users to very easily obtain the information that they’re entitled to under the Data Protection Act. Yahoo’s agency person reckons I’m a bit paranoid, and said as much, but Yahoo’s Duncan Watts seemed more sympathetic. I tossed him the idea of Yahoo doing a revenue share with users, the more data you let them collect and share, the more you earn from it. Not only is it a much more transparent approach but also an interesting way to get people to, quite willingly, pass Yahoo even more useful usage data. As a user of just about every Yahoo service there is, with Yahoo DataSense I’d soon be able to splurge on stuff like this £210 ($420) shot of Richard Hennessey spotted in the bar at the venue where Yahoo held it’s...

links for 2007-10-31

By on Oct 31, 2007 in Uncategorized |

Bloggers liable for content « Technobabble 2.0 [will have to return to add notes to this one as I haven’t read it yet – Robin] (tags: internetlaw internetlibel libel law anonymity onlinecommunitymanagement onlinediscussion)

links for 2007-10-30

By on Oct 30, 2007 in Uncategorized |

Citizen regulators: BBC Trust reaches out through blogs in its review of bbc.co.uk “Mark very eloquently summarised the main two topics of conversation about bbc.co.uk in the blogosphere as being about… wait for it… the iPlayer and the perceived editorial independence or otherwise of BBC news coverage.” (tags: blogging transparency editorial bbc bbcnews bbcblogs) backstage.bbc.co.uk :: iPlayer, DRM and Crossplatform Support – Interview with Ashley Highfield “In this frank discussion we cover the DRM issues, explain that iPlayer isn’t a Microsoft only party and ask why didn’t we use a non propriety solution…” (tags: bbcblogs bbc transparency) The NUJ and me: a considered response | Greenslade | Guardian Unlimited Greenslade weighs into the NUJ “Citizen Journalist” guidelines and multimedia working coffufle (tags: guardian nuj journalism citizenjournalism networkedjournalism greenslade) Let’s have a real debate about Web 2.0. Strange Attractor: Picking out patterns in the chaos “…we want to challenge Donnacha DeLong’s piece WEB 2.0 IS RUBBISH in the Journalist, the union’s magazine. The article is a one-sided polemic which not only mischaracterises Web 2.0 but also misrepresents the way that journalists and editors think a (tags: web2.0 nuj citizenjournalism...

the bbc blogs and some special guests

By on Oct 30, 2007 in BBC, blogging, blogging techniques, conferences/events, journalism |

Recently I’ve been kept quite busy organising, amongst other things, a big blogging event here at the BBC. It’s internal (sorry) but various people are going to be blogging, twittering and otherwise telling the world outside the firewall about it. The purpose of the event is to bring some of the BBC’s bloggers and various stakeholders in the BBC Blogs Network face-to-face with some leading bloggers from outside the BBC for an afternoon of thoughtful discussion on the purpose of the BBC’s blogs and their future. Those taking part from within the BBC are a good mix of people with different roles, skills and backgrounds and included are a number of senior editors from some of the BBC’s top news and current affairs programmes on tv and radio, website producers and developers, on air talent, a good contingent from the BBC’s inhouse College of Journalism, someone from the BBC’s inhouse newspaper Ariel, and even a BBC director. Rory Celland-Jones, the BBC’s Technology correspondent, will introduce our external contributors who include Jeff Jarvis, Graham Holliday, Adriana Cronin-Lukas and Lee Bryant contributing. Check their blogs later to see what they have to say about the day. Ian from BBC Backstage is planning to shoot and post some video and there will probably be some twittering and blogging going on, either on official BBC blogs or on the personal blogs of various members of staff, and I’ll try to round up links to those later today if I get the...

links for 2007-10-29

By on Oct 29, 2007 in Uncategorized |

NUJ: is it “hypocritical” to remain a member? “DeLong still shows a profound lack of understanding of some of the basics of web 2.0, and introduces the perfect straw man to the debate – that, somehow, web 2.0 “replaces traditional media”. He, and the magazine’s editor, does the union’s member (tags: neilmcintosh guardian nuj journalism web2.0 citizenjournalism guidelines) Peter Barron explains our current blog platform issues “When we started blogging using our current platform in November 2005, we were using software which was suitable for our ambitions at the time. Over the past two years those ambitions have grown massively, as has the number of you wanting to comment on ou (tags: blogs blogging bbcblogs bbcnews...